".......So God forbid hewn, carved, sculpted stone, and now we have these elaborate altars most often made of stone in the RCC and the daughter churches as well......."
There's a film which has been largely advertised in Europe thanks the Venezia festival of cinema: "The master"....
Tuesday, February 14, 2012
The Daughters: Protestant Churches #1: Altars and Pseudo-Masses
Why does the Bible warn us of the harlot's daughters?
Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
One thing in facing the church system and mainline churches is realizing how many of the traditions of Rome they have held on to. Once someone studies the Bible, prayers and learns God's Word, recognizing these traditions is something that can sometimes take time, but will be something the Holy Spirit will convict you of. While many people in mainline and other Protestant churches are well-meaning and you will meet those who truly seek after God or even a few who are saved, one very sad thing, is how many are caught in false churches that teach the traditions of men, and so many are rooted in Roman Catholicism.
One thing the Reformation was a work of God to bring His Word to the people but I know even there while people entered into MORE TRUTHS, some false things were kept and that includes these traditions, and more that began in Rome.
I am not a Protestant. Protestant is an interesting term coined by Rome, why did any Christian even call themselves that, as it is like the name of a rebellious teenager against Momma Rome, who "protests".
With this series of articles I am going to begin my exploration of these traditions that match Romes. This first article deals with the ALTARS present in these churches.
How many pseudo-Catholic MASSES are being done on ALTARS?
Presbyterians at an ecumenical meet up
One thing NOTICE HOW ALL THESE CHURCHES HAVE AN ALTAR.
The altar is the most important article of furniture of the church. It is the focal point of every service, and for that reason it is placed on the highest level of the church proper. Indeed the altar represents the REASON for the church in which it stands. The use of altars goes back to prehistoric times, and was apparently ordained of God because of its universal use in religious rites.
The Lutheran altar has a deep and solemn meaning. It is symbolic of the extreme sacrifice of Christ upon the Cross for the atonement of our sins. It is representative of the Throne of God. It is before the altar that God renews his covenant of the atonement and the forgiveness of sins when we truly partake of the precious body and blood of Christ in the Sacrament of the Holy Communion.
A Presbyterian "communion table"
We don't have altars in the Reformed tradition, but this is the communion table of Shadyside Presbyterian Church in Pittsburgh, PA, with Rudolf Scheffler's mosaic of the Transfigured Christ above and behind.
Well I am glad some of them have figured out why ALTARS are false but it's kind of elevated for a mere table.
United Methodist Altar
Even the Baptists have the ALTAR CALL where people are called up to the front of the church to be "saved", this is often done in churches, even where there is no altar or a table that is put down on a lower level.
And recall that the Orthodox, even have their rood screens to screen off the laity as a replica of the Jewish Temple and have altars themselves.Here is the question, WHY IS AN ALTAR NEEDED IN ANY TRUE CHRISTIAN CHURCH?
And yes, altars are all over the New Testament and one is discussed in heaven, but why is one needed in churches?
Remember altars are for sacrifices, they are for instituting sacraments.
Dictionary.com defines an altar thusly:
an elevated place or structure, as a mound or platform, at which religious rites are performed or on which sacrifices are offered to gods, ancestors, etc.
However: Jesus Christ's ONE TIME SACRIFICE IS FINISHED. Hebrews 13:10, speaks of Jesus it does not speak of a special stone table to do sacrifices on or a Eucharist ritual.
King James Version (KJV)
10We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.
11For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.
12Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.
13Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.
One thing too in the early Christian church and the book of Acts, do they ever detail the apostles doing rituals on an altar? They do not. There are many verses about the Lord's Supper being a shared meal together.
Act 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
I doubt there was an altar in all these homes....
Some of these churches you can attend and I have been in the Episcopal, United Methodist, and other churches and some even have services that even very closely match the Catholic Mass. When I visited an Episcopal church in my youth with a friend it basically was the same thing. So while some of these churches may deny aspects of Catholicism, denying transubstantiation defined as Rome does it, many have a watered down version of it. One of these false traditions definitely is a variation on the Roman Catholic Eucharist. Think about this, that is the theological foundation as to where the RCCLutheranism:
As someone who has spent all 47 years of my life in Lutheran churches, I am very familiar with Martin Luther's complex teaching regarding the Lord's Supper. I have seen plenty of people over the years struggle to grasp his puzzling perspective that Christ's literal body and blood are located "in, with and under" the bread and wine. Luther's highly nuanced description of communion 500 years ago was a curious twist on the Roman Catholic position. [snip]Amidst the many chains which fell off Martin Luther when he placed his faith in Christ alone, he couldn't seem to shake loose of his Catholic obsession with the communion elements. You won't find this obsession in the teaching of our Lord or His apostles.While this author disagrees with these teachings, obviously this shows us vestiges of Catholic teachings are right there.
People are still looking to men, Wesley, Luther, Calvin, Menno instead of to God. [MORE PRIESTS EXCEPT THIS TIME ONES WHO DO NOT CALL THEMSELVES FATHERS]
Looking to more earthly hierarchies instead of to Jesus Christ.
Let me ask you what do you think the blind man meant when he said in
And he looked up, and said, "I see men as trees, walking."
To me this is a warning right there in the Bible...[think about the Mustard Tree here, and how it grew so big] Why is he seeing men walking as TREES?
Jesus put his hands on the blind man's eyes to heal him and he looked up...[looking up to God]
"22 And he cometh to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind man unto him, and besought him to touch him.
23 And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought.
24 And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking.
25 After that he put [his] hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly."
Remember what I warned about the MUSTARD TREE...
well, most Protestant churches are "BRANCHES".
Just about Every denomination NAMED after a MAN
CALVINISM- JOHN CALVIN
MENNONITES MENNO SIMONS
and others like
Stone-Campbell, Swedenborgian, or METHODS from a man-METHODISM....etc.
Something to think about.
I want to know why so many kept the altar?
Did you know in the Old Testament, these kind of altars were FORBIDDEN?
Exodus 20:22-26 And the LORD said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you from heaven. Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold. An altar of earth thou shalt make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy sheep, and thine oxen: in all places where I record my name I will come unto thee, and I will bless thee. And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it. Neither shalt thou go up by steps unto mine altar, that thy nakedness be not discovered thereon.
Hmmm up some stairs, elevated, cut marble--hewn stone.
So God forbid hewn, carved, sculpted stone, and now we have these elaborate altars most often made of stone in the RCC and the daughter churches as well.
Lutheran altar and pulpit:
Here this is about elevating man, even with the high on pulpits seeking to add the things of man. Even in the Old Testament, the priests in the Jewish Temple were to use un-worked stone for their animal blood sacrifices. Now with the altars in the Roman Catholic church, we have elevated altars, worked stone, everything even against what the OT dictated and now of course the blasphemy against Jesus Christ of "confecting" the Catholic wafer and supposedly bringing "jesus" down to be 're-sacrificed' with Catholic people literally being told to believe they are eating the literal body and blood of "jesus" in their Eucharist wafers. Even if some of the teachings differ, why are so many Protestant churches doing things the SAME WAY with ALTARS INCLUDED? Don't forget World Communion Sunday
So what about the daughters who also stick to "sacraments", even the Presbyterians. Remember even the United Methodist's use the word EUCHARIST.
So why all the ALTARS?
To me it is a sign of a daughter church. And shouldn't we tell the truth to people in these churches?